Showing posts with label Immigration. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Immigration. Show all posts

Saturday, October 17, 2015

Ben Carson on Immigration

Moral low road to use cheap labor if no path to citizenship

Carson has not directly said if he supports a pathway to citizenship, but in his book America The Beautiful, Carson seemed to imply that a pathway to citizenship is the "moral" thing to do.

"Is it moral for us, for example, to take advantage of cheap labor from illegal immigrants while denying them citizenship? I'm sure you can tell from the way I phrased the question that I believe we have taken the moral low road on this issue," he wrote.

Carson has also said the United States should model its immigration reform after Canada's guest-worker program. "People already here illegally could apply for guest-worker status from outside of the country," Carson wrote in November. "This means they would have to leave first."



Pathway to citizenship unfair to past & current immigrants 

Carson took a hard line on the path-to-citizenship issue: "The American people should not be manipulated into believing that they are heartless simply because they want to preserve the rule of law in our nation and look after their own before they take in others," he wrote. "We also have to consider the millions of people who have immigrated here legally as well as those who are in the queue. 

It is incredibly unfair to them to grant amnesty to those who have jumped ahead of them in line illegally."


Source: National Journal 2016 series: Republicans on immigration , Feb 23, 2015


Use Canadian model for guest worker program 

Dr. Ben Carson was a success [with the Iowa Freedom Summit crowd]. He told a great life story about how he survived serious hardships, and shared his faith. 

With respect to immigration he wants to incorporate a guest worker program modeled on the Canadian one. That's a guest worker program for jobs Americans don't want to do, seal the border, and accept applications only from applicants who are outside of our borders.


Source: Salon.com weblog on 2015 Iowa Freedom Summit , Jan 26, 2015


Common-sense solutions: guest workers plus harsher penalties


Rising conservative star Ben Carson seemed to charm attendees at Saturday's Freedom Summit, weaving stories of his upbringing through a series of topics including immigration and health care. Carson, a best-selling author and retired neurosurgeon, spoke in an easy-going style that alternated between sincere and humorous: "I always feel so welcomed when I come to Iowa, because they have so many people here who actually have common sense," Carson said. Laughter followed.


Carson called for common-sense solutions to end government overreach and return America to traditional values. He spoke at relative length on immigration, calling for harsher penalties for those who employ undocumented immigrants and better border security. Carson also called on the U.S. to adopt a version of Canada's guest worker program, requiring those seeking work to apply while they live outside the U.S.



Overwhelming majority want the southern border secured


The overwhelming majority of Americans want the southern borders of our country secured and our immigration laws enforced, but several administrations recently have been unwilling to get tough on this issue because they do not want to alienate a large voting block of Latinos. This is yet another area where our government's leadership and the wishes of many of the people diverge and the people are being ignored.


Source: America the Beautiful, by Ben Carson, p. 39 , Jan 24, 2012




Ben Carson sketches plan for dealing with illegal immigrants

Posted on September 13, 2015 by Paul Mirengoff in 2016 presidential election, Ben Carson, Immigration


During an appearance of Face the Nation, Dr. Ben Carson took a stab today at outlining how he would deal with the issue of illegal immigration. After criticizing Donald Trump’s concept of deporting every illegal immigrant (and then readmitting “the good ones”), Carson said this:

[L]et’s say we get [the borders] sealed, because certainly in a Carson administration that would be done within the first year. You also turn off the spigot that dispenses the goodies, so that people don’t have any incentive to come here.


Then those who are here, we have to recognize that we can’t just round them up, but we can give them an opportunity to register. I would give them a six-month period.


If they register, and if they have a pristine record, they haven’t been causing problems, I would give them an opportunity to become guest workers — not citizens, not voting people, not people who get goodies. I think that would be a fair way to do it.

In terms of them becoming citizens later on down the road if they’ve done things the right way, we the American people will decide what the criteria for that ought to be.


Most of the commentary I’ve seen about Carson’s statement has focused on the guest worker idea. I’ll get to it in a moment.


My biggest concern, though, is with Carson’s proposal eventually to establish criteria for illegal immigrants becoming “citizens. down the road if they’ve done things the right way.” By definition, those who are here illegally have not “done things the right way.” They should be barred from becoming U.S. citizens.


As for a guest worker program, I’d like to hear the advantages of such a system over the status quo which, in a sense, is an informal guest worker program for illegal immigrants who keep their noses clean (and many who don’t). Carson suggests one — “registration” of illegal immigrants. But how many would register?


The disadvantages of a guest worker program have been described by Mark Krikorian and Ian Tuttle. It tends to result in permanent settlement and to depress wages.


Carson insists that under his plan, guest workers wouldn’t be permitted to “get goodies.” As Tuttle points out, however, there are a number of “goodies” that are all but impossible to cut off. Many illegal immigrant households receive welfare benefits through American-born children. There is no realistic way to withhold those entitlements.


Somehow, a presumption has arisen that we need to do something for the illegal immigrants living in this country. “Something” might be a guest worker program, full-fledged amnesty, a path to citizenship, or (in Trump’s case) deportation and readmission (in many cases) with legal status.


This presumption is, I think, a symptom of belief in big government and government-imposed solutions. A less (but plenty) ambitious idea is simply to keep illegals out and to deport those who run afoul of the law in any respect.


Finally, what are the politics of the proposal Dr. Carson sketched? Tuttle suggests that because Republican primary voters seem to want a hard line, it’s far from clear that Carson’s plan can be sold at the present time.


Proponents of comprehensive immigration reform have long insisted that the idea of legalizing most illegal immigrants under certain conditions has substantial, and even majority, support among Republicans. Certain poll results notwithstanding, I have never believed this. But neither do I deny that a great many Republicans are sympathetic to “doing something” for illegal immigrants who abide by our laws (except the ones that apply to immigration.


The problem for Carson may be that he likely is not the first or second choice of this portion of the Republican party. He’s competing for votes, I take it, with hardliners like Donald Trump, not with, say, Jeb Bush.


For this reason, Carson’s statement on Face the Nation might prove politically problematic.


In any event, the major candidates are staking out divergent positions on immigration. It should make for an interesting next debate.



Thursday, May 23, 2013

Immigration: Latinos, Muslims and the Path for American Citizenship.


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A friend after reading the ARTICLE The Strangers at the Door http://tapolitikausa.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-strangers-at-door-immigration-now.html. sent this latter to me:
Is it worth bringing Jewish law, instead of the largely-ignored laws of the United States into question here? I think it is.

The Most High is the One who legislated for all time, and under Whose law our Messiah was born, raised and died, but when He was raised, He was no longer "under the law" and as our King frees us, also, from that law.

The Law of Liberty dictated by our King bids us beware of our neighbor's, our beloveds' and our own conscience. I think that you would do better not to liken the United States to a household. We are ...

(especially now, when the republican form of government to which the Constitution was gracefully destining our forefathers is ignored at far more insidious a degree than any of the ICE's regulatory design) ...

under mortal danger from the illegal immigrants' obtaining the right to vote.

The woman who is pleading today for her 5th amendment rights (Lois Lerner) was demanding to know the contents of the prayers of the applicants for 501(c)4 status! 

(He is referring to the IRS scandal of targeting churches and right wind organizations for persecution)
And I responded:

The notion of household applied to the country has nothing to do with the form of the constitution of the Union. And it has nothing to do with the form of Government. 



Allegories are the best way to communicate ideas when are related to the description of what we call reality. 

Facts for this Nation instead of providing genuine material for a honest investigation in a search for the Truth,  they became arguments according the discretion and preference of each one. 

Facts are just an ally of the relativism waiting to be used according with the criteria that someone adopts to live and dream the American way of life. 

We find manipulation of the facts on both sides of the isle that best fit into what version of the facts they want to communicate. 

Where we are going as a Republic is far beyond to what our forefathers could ever imagine for the worst scenario of the future.

Plain and simple, after Obama, America will never be the same. Republicans, Tea Party and all alike have lost the train of History and the Democrats, all Liberals with all their demons have took the wrong one, toward the precipice. 

The allegory above and the ones i used in the article are solemn figure of language to affirm, for the sake of its abstract or hidden meaning, that the Earth is the Lord's, everybody and everything in it. America was founded to be a beacon for the world and a refuge of Freedom.

The hope for America to restrain Islamization are the Latinos. 



In all these immigrations discussions the right wing is broken and the left wing can't fly alone. They are all missing the mark. They don't debate the right issues.

Today, just to cite an example, under the blessing of the almighty Obama Government  thousands of R-1 Visas are issued do Buddhists, Hindus and Islam spiritual leaders overseas, most of them don't have any academic preparation as the Law determines as one of the requisites to be approved , while it is almost impossible for a Christian Minister with Academic credentials to get the same Visa Type. 

Let us put aside our political preferences by all means to dig into the Scriptures  without legalism to find out that all of us, citizens and non-citizens, legal or unauthorized immigrants need Mercy from the Most High. 

Our rich and wealthy country like no other in the Planet - and no other is so much blessed as we are - are struggling with Immigration issues and everything else for love of money. 



The reason as clear as crystal is we don't want to give the illegal human beings the right to use our hospitals, public schools, Medicare, Social Security, etc. 

That is the reason without intending to offend that I say: Hypocrites! They are already using practically everything!

By the way, if this Immigration reform passes the way it is, they will get the right to vote only after 13 years.

After Muslins spending already billions of dollars into our Political and Electoral System when the unauthorized Immigrants  become really Citizens with the right to vote... It will be very late! By then the Muslims will have already sized the Country with more influence, with births, with more money and elected representatives all over our Government.



The worst blind is the one who doesn't  want to see.

I end with this;

Command those who are rich ( USA Citizens - one of the greatest per capital incomes of Earth) in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment.

Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. 

In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life. (1 Timothy 6:17-19 NIV)

Yeshua is King and His Kingdomshall remain  forever. 

Be blessed, my friend!

Josimar Salum


Tuesday, December 4, 2012

Why President Obama's uncle should not be deported?

By now Mr. Onyango should have got his Permanent Visa long time ago.


Not for being President Obama's uncle he should now get his Visa as a courtesy. Of course not.

A President can not and should not have to use his power and influence to interfere with the Justice even if who broke the Law was his father. Much less an uncle!

What kind of Legal System is this that allowed someone to stay illegally in this soil for so many years?

What moral such Immigration System has to claim the application of the Law just now in order to deport this 68 years old man who have lived here for the last 40 years?

Not like millions of American senior citizens who regularly drink this old man was caught driving under the influence. So bad, I agree! He should not like anybody else drive drunk.

However is this System really legal? I don't think so. Is it just? No, it is not. At least this system is indecent and unseemly.



Friday, October 19, 2012

The Seven Amnesties Passed by Congress

Click here for details

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/illegal-immigration/seven-amnesties-passed-congress.html#irca

1. Immigration and Reform Control Act (IRCA), 1986: A blanket amnesty for some 2.7 million illegal aliens

2. Section 245(i) Amnesty, 1994: A temporary rolling amnesty for 578,000 illegal aliens

3. Section 245(i) Extension Amnesty, 1997: An extension of the rolling amnesty created in 1994

4. Nicaraguan Adjustment and Central American Relief Act (NACARA) Amnesty, 1997: An amnesty for close to one million illegal aliens from Central America

5. Haitian Refugee Immigration Fairness Act Amnesty (HRIFA), 1998: An amnesty for 125,000 illegal aliens from Haiti

6. Late Amnesty, 2000: An amnesty for some illegal aliens who claim they should have been amnestied under the 1986 IRCA amnesty, an estimated 400,000 illegal aliens

7. LIFE Act Amnesty, 2000: A reinstatement of the rolling Section 245(i) amnesty, an estimated 900,000 illegal aliens



Thursday, October 18, 2012

Obama & Romney: Economy and Immigration

A conversation with Councilor Rivera - Worcester, MA on Obama X Romney

Josimar Salum:

Obama is spending far more than all last administrations. US is borrowing money from China like a crazy cocaine addicted. He says he is not going to raise taxes. In the last 4 years the grocery and gas prices went up dramatically. The way we spend and borrow there will not be enough revenue of taxes to pay for it.

National Déficit
http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2012/10/01/obama-faces-trillion-dollar-deficits/1606435/

National Debit
http://news.yahoo.com/us-national-debt-hits-16-trillion-republicans-blast-031301848.html



Sarai Rivera

Yes but remember all the damage Romeny did in Mass



Josimar Salum:

What damage?



Sarai Rivera:

He didnt balance the budget in Mass the Democratic Reps did- He cut benefits for early education- childcare among other things



Josimar Salum

Romney balanced the budget. Actually when Patrick took office there was money in the State accounts. As governor of Massachusetts Romney turned a $3 billion deficit into a $1 billion surplus

Read about this:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/29/mitt-romney-want-to-know/#ixzz29cuVQs4v



Sarai Rivera:

He was very unsupportive of Worcester and if you talk to people who held office with him will tell you how unfair he was in regards to policy and social services

At what price the cuts of all the people that needed the support...he would make worc beg for the state funding support

He didnt care about health care, chidlcare and or education



Josimar Salum

Do you ask about Health care? No comments, maybe we live in a different state. Education? We have one of the highest rates on education in the whole country. Childcare. Who takes care of the children should be parents and not the state.



Sarai Rivera

And how do the parents do that when they have to work... or do they just depend on Welfare



Josimar Salum

About parents working that is a good question? How, I ask you?

Obama spent 8 trillion dollars more. He promised to cut in half the deficit. He is running the country even without budget. His government lives by dead lines. Do you remember and know why our Credit rate score went down?

The vital issue that matters is that we can't sell our soul to China.



Sarai Rivera

Yes but that was not the the one who created the mess he was elected into office and put int he possition to clean up the mess made by the Rep and having to do it with a Rep cabinet



Josimar Salum

The basic difference between Romney and Obama is that he is an administrator and our President is an activist politician.



Sarai Rivera

I will vote for an Amos heart over a Babilonian leader any day-- a communtiy activist will always care about the building up the people



Josimar Salum:

Amos heart? Who? Obama's? Please there is a lot of confusion going on. Babylonian leaders. They both are. I am not deceived. We are not voting for the Assemblies of God president.



This president doesn't know where he is coming from and to where he is going to. European socialism is the philosophy that thrives Obama. And I know well where this is going to end.



Tina Pereira:

Yes ....Obama clean up the mess made by Rep.



Josimar Salum

Obama has not been able to clean up in 3 years his own mess of his first year . How is he able to clean everybody else messes? Any way I don't thing he is capable to do it. A country is not run by words but my efficient administrative decisions.



Sarai Rivera

If he was such a good adminstrator than why is mass 70% againts Romeny



Josimar Salum

Our state is democrat and you know why. MA is the most liberal state along with CA.



Sarai Rivera

Loving Mitt support of the immigrants....NOT and could he have said Illegal a few more times



Josimar Salum

Sarai, about immigration you are now talking about something we agree about Romney and I don't think you support Obama in this issue.

I do not agree with Mitt Romney's position on immigration.

However what Obama has done is frustrating and a shame.

On his first two years he could have passed any legislation on immigration: He didn't while he has majority of votes on both houses.

He frustrated all of us, because he had promised to do the immigration reform on his first year, but he did not.

And his Executive Order halting the deportation of undocumented people from 16 to 31 years of age, meeting some requirements may turn into a Trojan Horse.

Why did he not signed a Executive Order and gave them all permanent visas?



Sarai Rivera

I do agree that Obama could have done more in regards to immigration and see his efforts now especially the youth is very important



Josimar Salum

Why should I believe him now?

I must tell you that Romney is not my favorite candidate. I had other preference.

But as A BELIEVER I do not vote for any candidate that works and support policies that kill babies on mother" wombs.

Please watch this.

http://youtu.be/Oi_KaZ53eDg

Why using the same Executive Order did he not give the green cars to these young people?

After Obama promised 4 years ago to change immigration laws to benefit millions of immigrants and not fulfilling what promised even when he had majority of votes on both Houses and after deporting more than 400.000 immigrants per year including thousands and thousands of Brazilians who never committed a crime CTIB - Central do Trabalhador Imigrante Brasileiro urge Latino US citizens to vote for him. "Let the deportations go on."

Mitt called for "self deportation" and Obama DID and DOES more deportations than any President in history before him.

As ABC news reported last December: "Since 2009, the annual average number of deportations has approached 400,000, according to the Department of Homeland Security. That’s double the annual average during President George W. Bush’s first term and 30 percent higher than the average when he left office."



Saturday, September 29, 2012

Mr. President, where are your promises concerned Immigration Reform?

I understand the issues of our American life are not pertinent to immigration only. What about for more than 12 million immigrants who are living in our soil?

I have been and I will be a fighter for a total immigration reform that includes everybody who has a clean record, people from all nations and not only the children of migrant parents in a demagogue move to entice once again the changers' dreamers or dreamers for the worse changers.



The President issued an Executive Order to provide legal status for two years for thousands of students that arrived here before they turned 16 years old while the Goverment will be profiling them as they apply.

Why he did not use then the same provision to bring from the shadows millions of migrants workers and definetely give them the permanent residency?

Of course he would not do that! He would not loose the votes of many Americans that are against the amnesty in the midst of this terrible economy he promised to fix but is worsening it.

What about almost 1.600.000 migrants (400.000 per year) this President has deported in his almost 4 years term, much, much more than President Bush did in his 8 years terms?

I strongly believe that security is primordial for a strong Democracy and to guaranteeing our freedoms, but deporting honest people, depriving them of family ties, invading their houses while they are in bed with their children is des humane, it just adds to the injustice of the current immigration laws and the ignorance of many politicians of both lines on these issues that are responsible for this mess.

What contradiction is this to applaud him on this political action when he did not do anything on his first two years while having a Democratic majority Congress?

Why his supporters justify his inaction saying the Country had more important issues to address than the Immigration issues? Can we fall for these poor excuses?

Let me put on record here: I support his decision about the students youth status wherever his motives were though I think for many reasons it may be a Troy horse. Time will tell.



What about the Massachusetts State Reps and Senators, by the way the vast majority on both houses is Democrat? They attached a monster provision on the State Budget this year (2012) to discriminate migrant's drivers if many documented migrants and Americans had not also killed people while legally driving. So let us talk seriously about hyper partisanship.

President Obama can't build a bipartisanship consensus and many times within his own party because he has a personal agenda which is not for the best interest of us, all Americans.

His socialist beliefs produce pieces of legislation like ObamaCare which socialize the care but also socialize the cost and leave another trillion dollars in deficit for the next generation to pay.

It seems this President wants to downgrade America like the Latin American communists use for a speech, the American Imperialism - highlighting Cuba as an example of society.

Fidel Castro was a killer who assassinated cruelly pastors and priests and their family members in the name of the Revolution. This same Tyrannical figure is applauded by this follies who should have immigrated to Cuba instead of coming to America.

Wake up, son!

On other matters I find very disturbing for someone who says that obey God and fear Him while the same time supports candidates pro-killing babies just to be able to solve his own egotistical problems.



This President has proven he can't stand by his words. He acts as an actor because he has said so many things to so many different groups contradicting himself and fulfilling very litle of what he had promised.

Moreover he openly despises the simple and basic elements of what truly means to fear the Almighty God. He calls himself a Christian but deny the Lord Jesus with his words and acts.

I speak for what I believe. I believe in family traditional principles and our unchangeable fundamental rights.

Life, liberty, free of speach, press, protest, the right to timely trial and jury, the right to bear arms to be able to defend ourselves if necessary of tiranic goverments, the rule of law, free expression of religion and free expression of political convictions.

But not political convictions of governments and religions that defend the killing of people, especially if they are Christians, as the tiranies of North Korea, China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Argelia, Syria and many others do.

I defend the equality of opportunities, marriage as an exclusive union between a man and a woman.

I believe and defend our Constitution and our Bill of Rights.



You can choose wherever candidate you want, think what you want to think, do what you want to do which better fits into your beliefs and philosophies, you can even critisize me for my choices, but don't tell or try to be an obstacle to my free exercise of opinion and choice according to just laws and my right to disobey the ones that are tyranic and evil!

I am not against any human being and I don't like to protest "contra" anything.

I am free to worship and serve Jesus Christ, to hold my personal convictions, stand for my beliefs and principles and defend my family and my country. Most of all I did rather die than to betray Him and loose my freedom.